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Dr Strangelove · Aug 02, 2008, 10:36 PM // 22:36

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Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

It should be used in hard mode so that it's easier

lolwut?

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Roman · Aug 02, 2008, 10:53 PM // 22:53

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Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

I think Ursan is fine the way it is, see no reason to nerf it. It should be used in hard mode so that it's easier to do all the vanquishing and get guardian titles.

Soooo according to you, we should call HM Ursan Mode from now on?

l o l.

isamu kurosawa · Aug 02, 2008, 11:01 PM // 23:01

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Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

Woot! *cheers* *prays that it's a HOM update since I just spent a bundle on a Tormented bow to add it*

I think Ursan is fine the way it is, see no reason to nerf it. It should be used in hard mode so that it's easier to do all the vanquishing and get guardian titles.

But anyway, hope the update is the HOM one that's been discussed for quite some time. *keeps fingers crossed*

In that case "WTB Hell Mode"

Hard mode is supposed to be hard. Ursan and various other things added that reduce its difficulty remove the whole point of HM. With HM so easy if you use ursan they may as well have not bothered wasting time to create HM or ursan at all.

mr_stealth · Aug 02, 2008, 11:02 PM // 23:02

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Originally Posted by Roman

Soooo according to you, we should call HM Ursan Mode from now on?

l o l.

Maybe they'll add an "Ursan Mode". If if x% of your party have UB on their skill bar, Ursan Mode is forced on, with larger mobs at even higher levels. Would make it a bit more balanced, kind of like the wurm areas of Nightfall.

AJD · Aug 02, 2008, 11:04 PM // 23:04

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Originally Posted by Tyla

...Which derives the point of Hard Mode...

Uh, what?

I think you mean something other than derive tbh.

fowlero · Aug 02, 2008, 11:12 PM // 23:12

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Originally Posted by AJD

Uh, what?

I think you mean something other than derive tbh.

I believe it's probably demine, but i suck at the english language and demine doesn't even look like a word to me atm but it sounds right. Alcohol deprives you of linguistic talent.

Anyway i'm thoroughly looking forward to this update because the entire GW community is going to explode whichever way it goes.

Mesmer in Need · Aug 02, 2008, 11:33 PM // 23:33

I think Tender Wolf won the thread right there.
I'm hoping for things like Hundred blades buff and maybe even a mending buff. (H4X).
I expect only a few meaningful updates (ursan) as well as a bunch of junk like buffing of an elite that will be nerfed again because it was too op.

Neo Nugget · Aug 02, 2008, 11:40 PM // 23:40

got something to look forward to when I come back from vacation.
Gogogo reward points!

optymind · Aug 02, 2008, 11:43 PM // 23:43

I'm hoping the next update makes FOW and UW runs take 3 hours.

Bryant Again · Aug 02, 2008, 11:59 PM // 23:59

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Originally Posted by upier

So .... I am guessing that Ursan-like concept would be acceptable in something like ... Starcraft? Pacman? Tetris? Mario?

Nope. Offline = others gameplay won't bother you, but =/= free to ruin the game.

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Originally Posted by upier

We're dealing with GW.
And A.Net.

We're dealing with an online-game.
And a developer.

ANet and GW aren't subject to any different rules than the games I listed above. The only problem is that they *listened* to the people who wanted to dumb-down and break their game, and they're just now accepting that it was a bad idea (no shit).

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Originally Posted by upier

How about if the question set is if it's really a loss to lose people that do not like the game in the current state?
And what if the answer they come up with is "no"?
Can the people here deal with THAT?

Which begs the question: Why would they rather listen and cater to people who don't care/understand about what makes their game the way it is, and not to people who want to improve it?

And no, I don't think we could deal with it because I don't know of a single game developer that ever said "hey, let's make our game worse!"

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Originally Posted by upier

How about if we just accepted that their actions aren't "mistakes" but rather a normal way of functioning?

First, that undermines the point of an online game in the first place. Secondly, making your game worse isn't a "normal way of functioning", improving it is.

AKB48 · Aug 03, 2008, 12:07 AM // 00:07

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Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

I think Ursan is fine the way it is, see no reason to nerf it. It should be used in hard mode so that it's easier to do all the vanquishing and get guardian titles.

Agreed. The Ursan is a split, you are either with it, or against it, very few people stand at the middle line.(as far as I'm aware of)

Ursan is defintly kill-able, and it doesn't take much of a mob to kill a full group of ursans. At max level, you only get +20 armor, which is roughly a Soj without the regen. But then again, so what? OK, these high and majestic ones want to play Pve with skill. Ok, do it, go right ahead, play Pve with however much skill you got. Don't use ursan then, its that simple.

But you should also realize that some people just want to get the job done, they don't care whether it involves skills or not. (title hunters, for one) So personally I agree that the Ursan doesn't deserve a nerf, its fine the way it is, it's the people who are making such a big deal out of something so little. (Soooo according to you, we should call HM Ursan Mode from now on? for ex.) If you like Ursan, use it, if you hate it, don't use it, play the game, not complain about it.

BlackSephir · Aug 03, 2008, 12:18 AM // 00:18

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Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

I think Ursan is fine

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hard mode

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easier

Oh lawdy lawdy

Dev121 · Aug 03, 2008, 12:20 AM // 00:20

I heard they were gunna put new minis in the game, including the full U2 band, and if you collect them all you can do a concert in your HoM. You heard it here first.

Konig Des Todes · Aug 03, 2008, 01:28 AM // 01:28

What I expect:
1. HoM Update
2. Reward Points
3. New Tonic
4. Skill Nerf/Buff (to what is needed)

What I hope in addition:
1. New Armor in Tyria for expansion professions.
2. More then just Tormented Weapons in the HoM.
3. A new Elite Area or two.
4. Improvements to Tombs (end-chest and statue in HoM)
5. Titan Quests become repeatable.
6. Adventurer Title
7. Drunkard/Sweet Tooth/Party Animal/Wisdom/Treasure Hunter become account based
8. SS/LB and EN Rep titles use the Kurzick/Luxon rank system and becomes account based.
9. Removal of /rank and /zrank

I don't expect much but I hope for a lot

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Just one of those things from my hope and most from what I expect would be lovely ANet. And the best part of this update is that I will be getting home around the time it should be coming! (Wed/Thur).

Edit: @ Tender Wolf. Not to be mean, but for your sake and the sanity of Guru either stay out of Hard Mode completely, or stay out of Hard Mode descussion. Hard Mode made easy? You obviously don't get what the original purpose was (although a majority of it is easy even without consumables or Ursan).

Gill Halendt · Aug 03, 2008, 02:10 AM // 02:10

Oh well, while you've all been arguing about Ursan Blessing and speculations about the next update, I've been lol'ing @ this:

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Thursday, July 31st 2008

Been farming whenever I have the time. Mostly Chaos Plains perma-SF

Chthon · Aug 03, 2008, 02:44 AM // 02:44

I've got a positive feeling about this update. Want to know why? Because, Lindsey Murdock plays PvE, that's why. She plays it on a serious enough level that she farms for ecto and shards. I seriously [u]hope[/i] that for the first time we have someone in charge of GW1 who understands the PvE "meta" and what it needs.

around · Aug 03, 2008, 02:48 AM // 02:48

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Originally Posted by AJD

Uh, what?

I think you mean something other than derive tbh.

Deride I think is the word he's looking for.

also pve meta lol

Bryant Again · Aug 03, 2008, 02:55 AM // 02:55

"PvE meta" isn't actually as inaccurate as most would assume.

around · Aug 03, 2008, 03:08 AM // 03:08

Metagaming assumes the existence of a mutable metagame (hell, even the word metagame carries with it the tacit assumption that metagames change).

TheLordOfBlah · Aug 03, 2008, 03:12 AM // 03:12

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Originally Posted by SmithyBen

for god sake don't nurf ursan i mean it! despite what most people think i enjoy having ursans in my team, makes elite areas quicker so its not so boring when your playing HB monk like myself. We've had ursan too long now and you can't turn back the 'problems'.

HB monk not boring, gud joke, I lold.